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Post by Dimitry on Jan 18, 2017 4:19:33 GMT -5
I feel BDM has come to a new stage, you can call it a wave, where a solid amount of bands started using this type of guitar tone and riffs.. to make it more clear, Ulcerate, who themselves were probably inspired by Immolation and Gorgut's Obscura IMO, use it 100% of the time. I think they just popularized this stuff. The first BDM band that I remember to use this kind of riffing was Wormed in their 2010 Promo (they used it in the debut too, but it was too little to notice, thought their music always felt like something different), they are not the first of course, Infested used that in their 2nd album 1000 Doors, they also sounded similar to that of Wormed's debut in their own 2004 debut. Now we have plenty of that, bands like Guttural Secrete's Nourishing, Iniquitous Deeds's Incessant, Disentomb's Misery, Infecting The Swarm use it a lot (especially the second, outstanding album), Inherit Disease's Ephemeral also a bit (just play Digested by Invertebrates). We also have a few upcoming releases like Cordyceps'es debut EP and debut album by Involuntary Convulsion. Hope I made myself clear. Pls recommend me some more of that stuff, BDM only, no Artificial Brain type stuff.
Ok, here's the list of what has been found so far and fits the description 100%:
Disentomb - Misery (2014) Iniquitous Deeds - Incessant Hallucinations (2015) Condemned - Realms Of The Ungodly (2011) Euphoric Defilement - Ascending To The Worms (2013) Guttural Secrete - Nourishing The Spoil (2013) Inherit Disease - Ephemeral (2016) Infecting The Swarm - Abyss (2016) Infested - 1000 Doors (2009) Wormed - Quasineutrality (2010) Wormed - Exodromos (2013) Wormed - Krighsu (2016) Egregious - Demo (2014) Images Of Violence - Revenants (2013) Coprocephalic - The Oath Of Relinquishment (2014) Human Excoriation - Celestial Devourment (2017)
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Post by suffocated_brain on Jan 18, 2017 6:18:58 GMT -5
I feel BDM has come to a new stage, you can call it a wave, where a solid amount of bands started using this type of guitar tone and riffs.. to make it more clear, Ulcerate, who themselves were probably inspired by Immolation and Gorgut's Obscura IMO, use it 100% of the time. I think they just popularized this stuff. The first BDM band that I remember to use this kind of riffing was Wormed in their 2010 Promo (they used it in the debut too, but it was too little to notice, thought their music always felt like something different), they are not the first of course, Infested used that in their 2nd album 1000 Doors, they also sounded similar to that of Wormed's debut in their own 2004 debut. Now we have plenty of that, bands like Guttural Secrete's Nourishing, Iniquitous Deeds's Incessant, Disentomb's Misery, Infecting The Swarm use it a lot (especially the second, outstanding album), Inherit Disease's Ephemeral also a bit (just play Digested by Invertebrates). We also have a few upcoming releases like Cordyceps'es debut EP and debut album by Involuntary Convulsion. Hope I made myself clear. Pls recommend me some more of that stuff, BDM only, no Artificial Brain type stuff. Its for sure a hype/wave since some time man. i didnt notice it that much in BDM but its annoyingly obvious in BM. its getting less the last months i think, but not long ago there was a time where every band sounded like Acherontas - progressive, dissonant and occult. i can appreciate this for some releases, but when every band does it, it gets boring. so, i hope its not spreading TOO much in BDM man. Bands like Wormed should stay special. but I know what you mean, i think Infecting the Swarm is the perfect definition of what you try to describe. its kind of a dark vibe and technical riffing while staying brutal. using not-typical riffings or songpatterns. regarding your recommendations, for sure give this a try man: Wormhole (they remind me of a slam version of wormed) Euphoric Defilement (i think their Album has this melodic, twisted vibe) Condemneds latest is maybe in the same direction latest Deeds of Flesh maybe, too those 4 come to my mind quickly.
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Post by Dimitry on Jan 18, 2017 8:35:43 GMT -5
its getting less the last months i think, but not long ago there was a time where every band sounded like Acherontas - progressive, dissonant and occult. i can appreciate this for some releases, but when every band does it, it gets boring. so, i hope its not spreading TOO much in BDM man. Bands like Wormed should stay special. but I know what you mean, i think Infecting the Swarm is the perfect definition of what you try to describe. its kind of a dark vibe and technical riffing while staying brutal. using not-typical riffings or songpatterns. regarding your recommendations, for sure give this a try man: Wormhole (they remind me of a slam version of wormed) Euphoric Defilement (i think their Album has this melodic, twisted vibe) Condemneds latest is maybe in the same direction latest Deeds of Flesh maybe, too those 4 come to my mind quickly. Yes man, you get the point, Infecting The Swarm is indeed a perfect example of this. Wormhole is on my "need to check list" so it's time will soon come. I didn't listen Condemned for a pretty long time, so yeah they have bits of this stuff too, not at much as ITS though. I wouldn't think of latest DOF album regarding this stuff though, even if they also do have bits of it, the music is too clean, fast and technical, no "bleakness" you know? And I will def check that Euphoric band, I've only heard about it but never gave it a proper listen. Thanks man. Just remember another one: Images Of Violence and their Revenants, has some great dissonant riffs too, finally bought this album recently, such an awesome release, incredible band, very underrated. I like this wave and I hope to hear more bands using this approach. Not popular as in other genres, so no worries for now, I don't think we will get a BDM band using this stuff for the sake of using it in the near future. Btw, I think new Condemned's album will have a lot of that, judging by the "hipster" album name logo they did hehe.
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Post by morguelord on Jan 18, 2017 11:05:43 GMT -5
Interesting post man. I've noticed the uprising trend of what I've heard labelled as "post-death" as well, that draws influence from Gorguts Obscura and onward as well as Deathspell Omega and putting it into a DM context, stuff like Pyrrhon, Baring Teeth, Ulcerate, etc. Very interesting concept and I enjoy a lot of the bands, especially when mixing it with other things like a Demilich-esque vibe a la Artificial Brain.
Anyway, as for the BDM side of things, I know not a LOT of bands do that type of thing. I did always think that Condemned's Realms of the Ungodly was one of the first in that suddenly popular style, taking Disgorge brutality and combining it with weird, ominous dissonance. Viewed it somewhat as a spiritual predecessor to Disentomb's Misery. As for other bands doing it, I think most have been covered. Disentomb, Involuntary Convulsion, Wormed, Cordyceps a lil bit, etc. I'm excited to hear more bands explore these types of soundscapes though and I'll keep an eye out for ya! I know a lot more "regular" death metal bands do it, Hate Eternal, Immolation, Heaving Earth, Destroying Divinity, etc. without being as technical and angular as the true "post-death" bands do.Good topic.
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Post by suffocatedbrain on Jan 18, 2017 14:31:11 GMT -5
its getting less the last months i think, but not long ago there was a time where every band sounded like Acherontas - progressive, dissonant and occult. i can appreciate this for some releases, but when every band does it, it gets boring. so, i hope its not spreading TOO much in BDM man. Bands like Wormed should stay special. but I know what you mean, i think Infecting the Swarm is the perfect definition of what you try to describe. its kind of a dark vibe and technical riffing while staying brutal. using not-typical riffings or songpatterns. regarding your recommendations, for sure give this a try man: Wormhole (they remind me of a slam version of wormed) Euphoric Defilement (i think their Album has this melodic, twisted vibe) Condemneds latest is maybe in the same direction latest Deeds of Flesh maybe, too those 4 come to my mind quickly. Yes man, you get the point, Infecting The Swarm is indeed a perfect example of this. Wormhole is on my "need to check list" so it's time will soon come. I didn't listen Condemned for a pretty long time, so yeah they have bits of this stuff too, not at much as ITS though. I wouldn't think of latest DOF album regarding this stuff though, even if they also do have bits of it, the music is too clean, fast and technical, no "bleakness" you know? And I will def check that Euphoric band, I've only heard about it but never gave it a proper listen. Thanks man. Just remember another one: Images Of Violence and their Revenants, has some great dissonant riffs too, finally bought this album recently, such an awesome release, incredible band, very underrated. I like this wave and I hope to hear more bands using this approach. Not popular as in other genres, so no worries for now, I don't think we will get a BDM band using this stuff for the sake of using it in the near future. Btw, I think new Condemned's album will have a lot of that, judging by the "hipster" album name logo they did hehe. check it, it should be EXACTLY what you meant:
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Post by Dimitry on Jan 18, 2017 15:45:18 GMT -5
Interesting post man. I've noticed the uprising trend of what I've heard labelled as "post-death" as well, that draws influence from Gorguts Obscura and onward as well as Deathspell Omega and putting it into a DM context, stuff like Pyrrhon, Baring Teeth, Ulcerate, etc. Very interesting concept and I enjoy a lot of the bands, especially when mixing it with other things like a Demilich-esque vibe a la Artificial Brain. Anyway, as for the BDM side of things, I know not a LOT of bands do that type of thing. I did always think that Condemned's Realms of the Ungodly was one of the first in that suddenly popular style, taking Disgorge brutality and combining it with weird, ominous dissonance. Viewed it somewhat as a spiritual predecessor to Disentomb's Misery. As for other bands doing it, I think most have been covered. Disentomb, Involuntary Convulsion, Wormed, Cordyceps a lil bit, etc. I'm excited to hear more bands explore these types of soundscapes though and I'll keep an eye out for ya! I know a lot more "regular" death metal bands do it, Hate Eternal, Immolation, Heaving Earth, Destroying Divinity, etc. without being as technical and angular as the true "post-death" bands do.Good topic. Thanks man. Yes I'm aware of the regular DM like those you mentioned above, these also come to mind: Enthrallment's latest album Eugenic Wombs, pretty much Immo inspired stuff, good stuff. Defilementory's 2014 debut album, last release from now defunct german label Torture Music. Not BDM though.
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Post by Dimitry on Jan 18, 2017 15:45:50 GMT -5
check it, it should be EXACTLY what you meant: Yes it is exactly what I was looking for. Awesome stuff, thanks!
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Post by Dimitry on Jan 19, 2017 17:47:10 GMT -5
For those who are interested in the topic, here's another band, one of my absolute favorites - mighty Infantiphagia! I'm surprised I forgot about it in the first place.
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Post by morguelord on Jan 19, 2017 17:49:45 GMT -5
Thaetas is one, a really new band with a promo or something out.
Was jamming Yattering earlier, realized they use dissonance in their riffs quite a bit.
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Post by Dimitry on Jan 19, 2017 17:53:16 GMT -5
Thaetas is one, a really new band with a promo or something out. Was jamming Yattering earlier, realized they use dissonance in their riffs quite a bit. Oh thanks man, I need to check them out, never put my hands on them really. Thaetas, them I know about
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Post by morguelord on Jan 19, 2017 17:57:28 GMT -5
WTFFFFFFF you haven't checked out Yattering?? You'll dig them. Well, it's weird stuff, really off kilter, but with that solid, pounding, typically Polish sound. I'm jamming Genocide right now and really enjoying it. Not a ton of dissonance but they throw it in at the right moments.
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Post by Dimitry on Jan 19, 2017 18:07:06 GMT -5
Since we're talking oldish BDM here, Slovakian Sanantorium comes to mind with one particular song - Dead Virgin Whore from their second album Internal Womb Cannibalism. I fine example of this type of riffing, slow and blurry. Yeessss.
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Post by goryblasphemy on Jan 19, 2017 21:28:40 GMT -5
WTFFFFFFF you haven't checked out Yattering?? You'll dig them. Well, it's weird stuff, really off kilter, but with that solid, pounding, typically Polish sound. I'm jamming Genocide right now and really enjoying it. Not a ton of dissonance but they throw it in at the right moments. Daaamn Yattering is old school greatness.
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Post by jordisentomb on Jan 20, 2017 1:45:11 GMT -5
I'm definitely a fan of this style that's emerging. I can't wait to show people where Disentomb is taking it on Album III.
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Post by Dimitry on Jan 20, 2017 13:18:26 GMT -5
And another one for those who are interested. Just a demo but still very good regardless, total GS 2013 worship.
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Post by goryblasphemy on Jan 21, 2017 1:28:58 GMT -5
I'm definitely a fan of this style that's emerging. I can't wait to show people where Disentomb is taking it on Album III. I cant fucking wait
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Post by Dimitry on Jan 24, 2017 3:45:28 GMT -5
Youtube recommended me this just now. Same stuff. I remember hating the album when it was released cuz of high and "bassless" sound and a constant wall of non-stop annoying vocals. I guess I'm not alone LOL Need to give it a fresh spin.
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Post by New Standard Elite on Jan 24, 2017 18:55:09 GMT -5
The dissonance has been around for years and years man. Maybe more frequent in use these days, instead of one obscure riff in a song, the entire song is dissonant riffing. Takes away the specialness of it for me.
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Post by jeden54 on Feb 6, 2017 23:35:17 GMT -5
The dissonance has been around for years and years man. Maybe more frequent in use these days, instead of one obscure riff in a song, the entire song is dissonant riffing. Takes away the specialness of it for me. Kind of an interesting point, some of these 100% dissonant bands are cool but not even really in the same genre of death metal anymore. Has to be pulled off really well to not be same-y.
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Post by Dimitry on Aug 8, 2017 2:53:22 GMT -5
Added to the list: Human Excoriation "Celestial Devourment" Highly recommend this masterpiece!
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Post by desanusor on Jul 8, 2018 20:48:03 GMT -5
In my opinion Deathspell Omega must be credited for bringing it to extreme metal dunno if you are anti black metal or else but check their albums if you like this type of stuffs ! To me Ulcerate just took this from them (in a good manner). Also a dissonant and very effective black metal band that uses dissonance in a catchy way : www.youtube.com/watch?v=KavMuHIccDc
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